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S7E23: Keys for Developing Emerging Leaders

S7E23: Keys for Developing Emerging Leaders

How is your organization developing emerging leaders? We believe a key role for every leader is to develop the next generation of leaders. And today, we talk with author and leader, Clay Scroggins, about the key to emerging leader development.


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In this episode:

  • Taking lofty leadership principles and say how do these apply to people stuck in the middle of organizations (05:06)
  • At BWCI we identify inspirational leadership as one of the keys to a flourishing workplace culture. The qualities of such leadership include compassion, humility, and transparency. You hit on these qualities when you discuss self-awareness as a leader. Why is self-awareness so important for those who want to lead into the future? (05:35)
  • Self-awareness is the foundation upon which every virtue is built (06:27)
  • It is the thing that is standing between you and where you want to be as a leader (06:50)
  • Being willing to admit what you don’t know is a leadership quality you discuss in your book. Why is this so important for leaders and what are some practical ways that someone can commit to being a lifelong learner? (07:45)
  • Leadership is changing but how is it changing? (8:24)
  • "You can't know everything" (09:49)
  • As leaders, we can't be paralyzed saying, 'we don't know.' (12:25)
  • While we may know that there will be failures in our journey as a leader, sometimes were tempted to move quickly past these experiences. Why do we need to examine our failures and get over a fear of failure in order to grow and learn as a leader? (12:48)
  • "We're all calibrated to a world that no longer exists. I think Scott Cormode said that in The Innovative Church, that our churches are calibrated for a world that no longer exists." (14:19)
  • "I was really trying to help readers learn how to do that self-excavation, that soul excavation of, what is it inside of me that is so afraid of failure? because the truth is, we are more afraid of failure than we are of death." (18:51)
  • Why would you say that we need some different people on the bus, maybe even quirky people, those who think differently or even people who are difficult to manage? That kind of rubs against that getting the right people, not having the right chemistry. (25:40)
  • "But what I feel like is going to be different about the future is not the phrase, but the definitions that we use for the word right, “Get the right people on the bus.” That’s the word that I would contend with most, and I wouldn't even advocate for a different word. I would just say, we all should spend some time thinking about what does that mean for me and how would I define that?" (27:15)
  • "What I contend with is the phrase, is the word right, that right cannot mean same." (29:59)
  • "How do you advise aspiring leaders to develop their conflict-resolution muscles, with the divides in our country over different things, the conflict that we don't seem to be able to work through it? How do you advise aspiring leaders to develop their conflict-resolution muscles?" (31:11)
  • "We're living in a society that is not getting better at conflict but is actually, our conflict-resolution skills, if we ever did have them, are eroding.: (32:08)
  • "It's one of the downsides to the trophy generation is that as our society moves along, people that are entering the workplace are going to be less and less able to handle conflict and less and less skilled in navigating complex conversations." (32:45)
  • "It starts with affirming, asking, acknowledging, and then advising, then bringing your advice. And most people go through it in reverse order." (36:43)
  • And as leaders, we need to stay nimble and be open to new ways of acknowledging our goals, you know? So how can leaders create a culture of innovation in their sphere of influence? You know, this idea of innovation—you've already really touched on several of the topics—but, you know, summarize the culture of innovation, what are your thoughts? (38:12)
  • "I think it begins with what we talked about around the fear of failure. It begins with being willing to admit your own weaknesses, being willing to speak to your own faults, being willing to talk about your own stories of when it didn't go well." (38:32)
  • "And I think the same thing is true in organizations, that if we want people to try, if we want people to put themselves out there, we want people to pursue innovation, we have to be willing to create a culture that doesn't just allow failure, but that celebrates the way in which people have tried and failed." (40:17)
  • Can you elaborate on the spiritual side of greater leadership? (41:15)
  • "You know, we all get this one life, and leadership is that it's, really, at its essence, at its core, its influence, it's the ability to move people to do what they don't want to do to accomplish what it is they want to accomplish. Leadership is the ability to move a room. (41:36)


Additional Resources

Buy Clay's book: The Aspiring Leader's Guide to the Future: 9 Surprising Ways Leadership is Changing

The Aspiring Leader's Guide to the Future: 9 Surprising Ways Leadership is Changing Clay Scroggins

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