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A leader's metrics can be climbing, the board can be pleased, and the mission can be moving forward — while underneath, the soul is quietly eroding. Mindy Caliguire, co-founder and CEO of Soul Care and author of Ignite Your Soul, joins this conversation to name what that erosion looks like before it becomes a breakdown.
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About This Episode
Leaders will learn to recognize the early, often-missed signs that a soul is depleted — persistent fatigue, resentment, lost passion — long before those signs become a crisis. This matters because external success can mask internal erosion for years, and by the time it surfaces, the cost is often steep for the leader, their family, and their organization. The episode offers a shift from "rest enough to get back to baseline" toward leading out of genuine overflow, with a simple framework — a page, a person, a plan — leaders can act on immediately. Mindy brings both decades of ministry and organizational experience and her own history of physical collapse from ignoring these same symptoms.
Episode Highlights
05:59: Why organizations don't notice soul erosion — because "if everything looks fine on the outside, we assume everything is fine on the inside"
08:53: Mission and soul care aren't opposites to balance — the real problem is treating them as if they were
17:58: The predictable warning signs of a depleted soul — fatigue that sleep doesn't fix, resentment, and simply feeling "done"
25:42: The real difference between recovering to baseline and leading out of overflow
36:42: A simple framework for leaders ready to act — a page, a person, and a plan
Meet the Guest
Mindy Caliguire is co-founder and CEO of Soul Care and the author of Ignite Your Soul: When Exhaustion, Isolation, and Burnout Light a Path to Flourishing. Her work has taken her through church planting, spiritual formation leadership at Willow Creek, and nine years at Gloo, and she now leads Soul Care full-time, building resources and assessments that help leaders, pastors, and executives attend to the health of their souls. She speaks and writes from both organizational experience and her own history of soul neglect and recovery.
Resources Mentioned
- Ignite Your Soul: When Exhaustion, Isolation, and Burnout Light a Path to Flourishing by Mindy Caliguire
- Soul Care's free Soul Health Assessment, available at SoulCare.com
- Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard
Episode Transcript:
A full, word-for-word transcript of this episode is available here.
Next Steps for Leaders:
If this conversation named something you've been avoiding, don't rush past it. Listen with a journal nearby, ask honestly how your soul is doing, and consider sharing this episode with a leader who might need permission to ask the same question.
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